A formal debate challenge to Ashley Hayworth Roberts by Issac Bourne

Side note: Some may wonder why I went to all the trouble to catalog all this. I was told by more than one person that if things go sour at the forum I was to debate on. They would take everything and twist it to make me look like the bad guy. So after that i started taking screen shots of most everything. And just so they can’t do all that I posted everything here. Otherwise I would not have even worried about it and just let it slide. But the persons involved never let anything slide so in defense I had to take measures…. And one more thing. And the predicted attacks begin. Hateworth ala Haworth.

Debate was basically over before it even started. According to one of the admins there I did not have permission to debate there or start a debate there. And the section that I had posted in they said was the wrong section. Well Ashley invited me so what was one to think? It’s not like he was new there so if he needed to ask he should have. And then the administrator says: On that lengthy post you made, I accidentally deleted it while trying to move it. One that I did not have a copy of. I was not about to retype it so I told him forget it.

Here is the section I posted in along with it’s guidelines. The admin claimed I had done this in the “wrong section” but it was the only section that had the word debate in it. I believe he was looking for an excuse to delete the post know it would piss me off.

I was warned about debating there by more than one person I should have listened. But here the admins post.

These pics below are of where Me and others already had our names banned before we got there. Which they claimed they had no knowledge of. When it says I use forbidden characters, it means the name was manually blocked on purpose. I used to run forums, design them, and even wrote some code. So I know how they work. Now if Ashley does his usual thing he will call me a liar in all this because it’s his favorite word to use. No problem. This will be the last time I have any dealings with him or that forum.

UCONN Professor goes ape during campus open air preaching.


This is the perfect example of how atheists have to bully everyone into believing what they believe. The professor tries to start a confrontation by getting up into the other guys face and invading what is known as another person’s personal space. Atheists are no interested in free speech of the individual, only if it’s free speech about what they believe.

What you see here is the perfect example of what also goes on the the classrooms of our colleges. If a Christian happens to be in the class he has 2 choices. One is to either sit quietly as the professor uses ridicule to counter what they believe, or speak up which ensures they will fail the class. Failing not because of their work on the subject they are taking, but for daring to come up against the professor’s ridicule of what they believe.

As the video on this page progresses, the professor is found surrounded by some atheists. In which he starts preaching the gospel of evolution. And then he does something that proves what we creationist have known all along about evolution. He praises Darwin by saying ” Praise Darwin” and gets the atheist crowd to repeat it. Then says Amen which is an ending to prayer. So they were praying praise to Darwin. Evolution is just a repackaged religion made to look like science.

50,000 generations of E coli prove evolution wrong.

Ignoring that evolution always misses steps to actually proving itself does not make it true. There is a reason that a person must first understand that there are no absolutes before they can understand evolution. The reality of believing there are no absolutes means truth becomes a huge grey area. And anyone can take an idea like evolution and make it look true without it actually being true.

The other problem associated with this, is that atheists like to make micro and macro evolution sound like the same thing. Or that micro to infinity proves macro. The problem with this logic is 2 fold.

  • If they are one in the same, why give them different names?
  • Claiming micro to infinity makes macro evolution leaves out one very important step. And that is to know if there are limitations to micro evolution that would keep it from equaling macro evolution. Because unless this can be tested and observed a huge assumption is being made that micro will = macro with no problems. That’s not science.

Assuming with no observation leaves a huge door open to be proven wrong.

Example: Light speed for years has been claimed to be a constant. The problem is that we live in a gravity environment, and light does not always travel under the influence of gravity as travels in space. So we don;t know if light changes speed when there is no gravity around. But recently science has been able to:

So all this means is that the speed of light is no longer constant. This puts into question every book, paper, theory etc…. That is based on the speed of light being constant. All of this is because some people wanted to make an assumption about light when they did not have all the facts. And because that assumption fits nicely with the theory of evolution and brings into question the Biblical creation. But now since all that’s in question the tide has turned and everything science has assumed on the speed of light being constant is now in question.

Some of what this puts into question are:

  • How far stars and planets are away from us.
  • How old stars or planets are because a light year no longer applies when the speed of light is no longer constant.
  • Theories based on this no longer valid.
  • All papers and books based on this no longer valid.

All because someone decided to assume. Now the question is: How long until science decides to admit to being wrong and correcting all this? From what has been witnessed with evolution and correcting mistakes there, I suspect it won;t be in our lifetime. 50 plus years is the norm for evolution.



Bill Nye and Ken Ham live debate.

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Bill Nye vs Ken Ham debate at AIG

The date has been set, and the atheists whine. They say that Bill Nye should cancel. To debate creation is to give it legitimacy. More like creation evidence has become so good that a debate like this would show up evolution for what it really is. Nothing more than a hypothesis..

Remember atheists, evolution has to remain falsifiable in order to even be a theory. Refusing to debate proves it is not. And can no longer be challenged. So what is a theory that can no longer be challenged in a debate? A protected unfalsifiable idea that is no longer scientific. So let’s see if atheists will prove me on this and get Bill Nye to cancel the debate so they can all go hide under a rock.

To show even more that atheists can no longer defend evolution scientifically because it’s no longer scientific. They will break out the ridicule and personal attack machine, It’s all they have anymore. Which proves my point even further. So post on those blog, forums, and websites all the ridicule you can muster. It proves what we already know about evolution. It’s dying and hiding behind ridicule because that’s all you guys have. So how many names will you call us today atheists? LOL. What a joke evolution is.

****Update as quoted from Ken Ham: Watching the Nye/Ham Debate Live – An Update

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Here is CNN interviewing Bill Nye: