Theistic evolution

Why would a Christian even accept evolution when it is the opposite of God?

There are people on both sides of the issue that want to always be in the group that seems to be the accepted view of the majority. The group that is easiest to be a part of. And the group that is not always being made fun of. The group that in a word, seems to be a cool group to be a part of. So in a sense they allowing the status quo to dictate their life decisions. But they deem it important because so far it has worked out for them in their life. So they will continue to do it. Even though majority opinion does not change reality, or truth. And that goes for both sides of this issue.

Majority view does not dictate actual truth in creation, or evolution. There is not even a scientific procedure or method that can be worked out that says majority view is always right. This stems from the science education teaching that there is no absolutes. That truth and reality is what you make it to be. The fact is, there are physical laws in which everything has to operate from within. Because this is not eternity, nothing lives forever. So because you might want to live forever, does not mean that you will. Just that one example proves that teaching wrong.

A christian example of believing evolution:

I will be using a website of a claimed theistic evolutionist: http://www.theistic-evolution.com/

Quote from site: I am a Christian who accepts the scientific theory of evolution. This is an essay describing what I believe. You will have to sort out and determine what you believe.

My comment: This is a perfect example of how it becomes up to the individual to decide what is true, and what is not. Here, instead of God showing you the truth. You become god. And you determine truth.

Quote from site: There is a lot of nonsense out there about the theory of evolution: that it denies the Virgin Birth, that it denies the bodily resurrection of Jesus Christ. Hopefully this essay will at least dispel some of those false statements.

My comment: I can hardly wait to hear what this guy is going to say (have not read site, just picked one from a search engine)

Checking Things Out:

Quote from site: 1 Thessalonians 5:21 says to "test everything". "Everything" means more than just the Biblical information.

My comment: From this statement here, I believe we are fixing to find out that in order to be a theistic evolutionist. The bible has to become second as far as truth is concerned. And like commented earlier. It becomes the individual who determines this.

Quote from site: Acts 17:11 also approves of checking up on people, "But the people of Beroea were more open minded than those in Thessalonica, and gladly listened to the message. They searched the Scriptures day by day to check up on Paul and Silas' statements, to see if they were really so." The great Welsh preacher Arthur Burt also agrees. "Truth demands independent witness," he preaches. "Test it! It's your responsibility to test what I say!"

My comment: This is a perfect example of taking scripture out of context. The real test is when you make the whole thing mesh, instead of contradict itself. I believe we will see examples of how evolution makes the bible contradict itself more than what it seems to already. Also, any bible scholar, or theologian will tell you that the test is the bible itself.

From this point on, the guy comments on what other people say about theistic evolution. Since I am interested in the individual thought of this. I will go to his credo page which can be found here: Credo, what a theistic evolutionist believes.

Quote from site: I believe that God Almighty created the heavens and the earth, and all life upon the earth. He accomplished this process over billions of historical years. He has been in charge of this process since the beginning of time and He still is in charge. He directed the unfolding of life forms over time that many people call evolution.

My comment: Two things. 1) There is no verse in God's word that supports billions of years of time. 2) There is not one verse that even supports evolution.

Side note: Many theistic evolutionists make the comment that the reason billions of years is not mentioned is because man had no need to count that high. So therefore it's not there even though that time did pass. Really? gen 24:60 And they blessed Rebekah, and said unto her, Thou art our sister, be thou the mother of thousands of millions, and let thy seed possess the gate of those which hate them. What is a thousand times a million? It's one billion. So God's word did have a way to express one billion. And the number two comment: God's word actually speaks against evolution by making the comment that the created life go and reproduce after it's kind. God did not command any animal to have a baby human.

Now I will skip past the faith part and address the last paragraph in that first section.

Quote from site: I believe that the Holy Bible is the true word of God. I believe everything that the Bible says about itself. The Bible is divinely inspired and divinely passed through history over thousands of years. The witness of the Bible is essential for understanding our faith, and for living out our lives in service to Jesus Christ. The Word of God is our Rock, the foundation upon which our Christian faith is based.

My comment: You cannot claim that the Holy Bible is the true word of God, and also believe in a theory that contradicts it, and is also the direct opposite of it. God cannot be denied and believed at the same time. One of the beliefs makes the other a liar. So who is lying? God, or Darwin?

Quote from site: I believe that the Bible never requires me to bear false witness about God's creation.

My comment: We shall see if what this person believes holds true to what was just claimed.

Quote from site: Next to these great beliefs, a biological theory seems pretty unimportant. That impression is correct. Do I "Believe in Evolution" like I believe in the Resurrection of Jesus Christ? Absolutely not! I accept the Theory of Evolution like I use the Quadratic Formula; they are both useful for a certain class of problems that I sometimes have to solve. I certainly do not place my eternal life and soul in the care of a scientific theory or a mathematical formula. I am no atheist. I place my entire being in the hands of God Almighty through his Son, Jesus Christ.

Quote from site: Here is a perfect example of why people choose evolution over creation. Evolution is more useful for how this person "wants" to believe. I predict we will also find why he wants to believe this way as we progress.

Now I put this part separate from the rest because it makes a good example:

Quote from site: I reject the idea that evolution and Christianity are always and must be in opposition to each other. I reject the notion that if the scientific theory of evolution is true, then Christianity must be false. I reject the idea that people who accept evolution must be atheists. I reject the idea that the scientific theory of evolution fundamentally denies the idea of God the Creator. I reject the idea that evolution and Christian faith are inevitably in conflict with each other and cannot be reconciled.

Notice all the I's in this paragraph. Each decision is not verse supported, nor is there Biblical support for this. This goes along with the five I wills of Satan: Isaiah 14:12 How art thou fallen from heaven, O Lucifer, son of the morning! how art thou cut down to the ground, which didst weaken the nations! 13 For thou hast said in thine heart, I will ascend into heaven, I will exalt my throne above the stars of God: I will sit also upon the mount of the congregation, in the sides of the north: 14 I will ascend above the heights of the clouds; I will be like the most High. Each comment is about the individuals decision to do it. These decisions have nothing to do with being Godly, or being Christian. I'm not saying or implying that this guy is a Satanist for what he believes. But what I am saying is that it seems kinda funny how the (5) I rejects, are same in number to the (5) I wills of Satan. You see, a believer can be used by Satan and not even know it. I believe that is what is going on here.

The age of the earth:

Quote from site: There are too many scientific disciplines that state that the earth is more than 10,000 years old. Astronomy, genetics, linguistics, geology, plate tectonics, and archeology all say it is a lot older. The probable figure is about 4 billion years for planet Earth, and roughly 3 billion for life itself. Although nobody can absolutely prove that the earth is older than about 200 years, we base our conclusions on appearances and observations. The weight of evidence from all these disciplines is too much for me to dismiss. I do not find at all credible the assertions that the earth is only 10,000 years old and all the natural processes occurred within that time. (Bishop Ussher calculated 6,000 years old, and the Flood at 2348 BC.)

My Comment: Basically I do not have a problem with the age of how everything is found. Even though I believe that only 6,000 years of actual time has past. But what this guy, and most Christians, do not understand. Is that the first six days of creation were in eternal time (link).  In eternal time, age is a separate process, and time is a separate process. They are not tied to one another. Why? This is because death is not a part of eternity. So the thing that causes death, which is age, becomes a separate process. So time passes, and everything remains age-less. But, age being a separate process also means that creating things with age already added would be possible in the first 6 days that are without sin.

Quote from site: One often reads the statement that "evolution says the earth is billions of years old." This statement is incorrect. Astronomy and geology say that the earth is billions of years old. Evolution draws on these disciplines for an estimate of the time in which the evolutionary processes can work. This point is important in order to realize the breadth of the quarrel about the age of the earth. If you assert that the earth is only 10,000 years old, you are disputing far more areas of the natural sciences than just a portion of biology.

My comment: Notice he is not worried about disputing God's word. This is what theistic evolution does to one's faith in the word.

Quote from site: Some young-earth creationists assert that the earth is 10,000 years old, and others assert that the earth is 6,000 years old. That's a big difference: 4,000 years, or 67%. Bishop Ussher's chronology, derived from the Bible, clearly states that the earth is 6,000 years old. Extending the age to 10,000 years conveniently places the date of Creation and the Flood beyond the oldest trees, and beyond the pyramids and dynasties of ancient Egypt. I have heard the following accusation from young-earth creationists: You are interpreting the Bible in the light of science; you should be interpreting science in the light of the Bible. (I have not heard a Bible verse to back up that charge.) 10,000 years is not what Bishop Ussher said. What is the reason for changing his number? Creationists who claim 10,000 years, unless they do so for purely Biblical reasons, should hear that same accusation ringing in their ears at least once.

My comment: God's opinion of evolution: Romans 1:25 Who changed the truth of God into a lie, and worshipped and served the creature more than the Creator, who is blessed for ever. Amen.  Can't be any clearer than that. Because Evolution is all about the origins of every living creature upon the earth. And now through naturalistic means that these creatures came to be in a final form without the help from God. The reason some creationists say 10,000 instead of 6,000 years is because they are rounding off to an even number. But that even number is really not that close to the actual timeline, so I would have to agree with him on this issue.