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                                        The real goal of atheistic evolutionists revealed.

When surfing the web, I often come across interesting posts. But I don't think I have found one more interesting than this one. If you ever really wondered how the atheistic-evolutionist mind works, now you will read it here. This was a response to a movie linked to from here: Flash format movie.  Also, as you read this. You will find out the truth about how most atheist-evolutionist think about anyone who believes in God. For they have levels they put us in. The ones who adhere to the literal word of God are called: Wing nut Christian Fundamentalists (fundies). Break down by number is at the end of what was said. Quote:

 As I've said before - doing nothing but incessantly whining about Christianity's attack on Middle School Biology class (1) is missing the issue completely. It's important to criticize fundies on our own turf, true, but there are bigger problems afoot.

If in the future America does at some point fall under the dominion of Christian Fundamentalism(2)t will be as a fearful reaction to the long-ignored threat of Islamic Fundamentalism knocking down our door - not nudie movies, violent video games, or Charles Darwin. Our waking up to what's going on may mean a waking up to a Crusade. The wheels are in motion. As Americans sloooooooowly awaken from their slumber, and see Islamists not as isolated radical nutjobs, but as fervent and well-organized religionists, Jew-haters, and global dominationists(3), they're turning to their own religious leaders for answers - after all, Islam is about hate, whereas Jesus is about love...! And that means that because Islamists are insane, Israel is always right, no matter what!

If this should happen, there's little we non-believers will be able to do about it - fear triumphs over reason every single time(4).

All the time, I hear anti-Islamism equated with revivalist Christianity. And Atheism equated with the failed "why do they hate us?" "it's our own fault" "we should respect their faith" attitude of the "Liberal Loony Left" in the minds of many. I fear the sentiment is growing.

We non-believers must focus on Islam - learn about it, understand it, reach out to it, and meet it head on. We must engage the Islamic world - lest we risk losing all the progress we've made toward Liberalism these past 500 years in the West(5).

If only we spent half the time exposing the irrational and ridiculous beliefs of radical clerics to other Muslims as we do arguing with dingbat Christians(2)... At least dingbat Christians aren't willing to behead the Infidel and slaughter the Jew.

The Islamic World needs an Enlightenment movement. It needs Liberalism and secularism and Humanism(5).

It seems our global bungling, however, just radicalizes the Middle East even more, and makes things worse than ever. I fail to see how invading Iraq made anything better. Hussein, for all his sickening evil, knew how to reign in the religious Fundamentalists in his country. Now the Islamists may soon run Iraq outright.

I really don't know what we should do at this point. But I do know that pretending there's not a problem, or worse, "respecting peoples' faith" and remaining silent, or even worse yet, radicalizing ourselves into Fundamentalist Christianity in response, will not help(6).

In regards to radical Islam, I think we Atheists are even stupider than the fundamentalist Christians and dipsh*t moderates.

We should know better. All students of history should know what religious fundamentalism is capable of(6).

Side note (the Ironic meter): There are several miss-spellings through out what these people have said. I often find it ironic that atheist-evolutionists like to point out spelling mistakes on our end to justify their claim on how uneducated we are. I may not be a spelling expert, but I do not make as bad mistakes as above, and make up new words to try out and spell along the way.

I'm breaking down what was said for better understanding. It will be done by number.

(1) This is a reference to the attack on theory of evolution. Evolution is their number one faith destroyer of Christian kids in school. Over 80% of those who are brain washed with the lies of evolution, will lose their faith in creation. And of the 80% that lose their faith in creation, 90% of them will lose their faith in God. Evolution is the main reason we are now dealing with a generation that is Godless, and shows hate for anyone who is a Christian.

(2) This is what every believer is referred to if they believe exactly what is written in the literal word of God. Evolutionists know that if we are singled out, categorized as loonies etc... That they have a better chance to sell their doctrine of doubt among the body of Christ.

(3) They refer to Islamic people as global denominationists (sic). Which is true. But later it is said that they would like to sell the Islamic people their view, and join them in their goal. Which when you change someone to your way of thinking, their goal becomes your goal. So the evolutionists-atheist are willing to join with a known enemy to acheive their goal. From this stand point, you can see why evolutionists are more willing to join with Islamics than with any other religion. For it itself is a religion.

(4) Our choice to follow God of the bible, and believe in it. Is not considered reasonable thinking. In fact, evolutionist-atheist think we are brain damaged, and they have sold this bill of goods to a lot of believers to persuade them to convert partially to their way of thinking. Planting their seeds of doubt, to destroy faith in God. And when you have faith in one thing, and it's lost. You will search for a new faith, which is why Evolution theory is such a good shoe in for one who has fallen. One religion replaced with another.

(5) The reason evolutionists-atheist are willing to join with Islamic religion is because:

 a) They show the same view for world dominance. A type of one world order where only one view is accepted. Their view.
 b) They work through mind control with no choice. Islam does this through fear of not being accepted, and death. Evolution does this through fear of being rejected by the majority view, and fear of being categorized with supposed loonies. Evolution can only work were the real God does not exist, and is the reason Islam is chosen. I also find it ironic that evolution has no problem with creation through Allah, but has a problem with creation through the Christian God. Islam creation videos.  I have to wonder if evolutionists would have a problem with the phrase: "Allah did it", like they have with "God did it"? I guess not since they are already thinking about forming an alliance.

 c) Both evolutionists and Islamic people have the same hatred towards Christians. So combining this hate for a greater cause (a world with no Christians), is why evolutionists think such an alliance is achievable. I also find it ironic that the bible foretold of such an alliance that would usher in the anti-Christ. And when the anti-Christ got his fill of this alliance (they can no longer can help his agenda), he will expose it, and destroy it. This is because for his view to become the only dominate view allowed. And because he will be in a place with much power and authority, they won't be able to stop his take over of the world dominance they set up. When it comes to a one world view and dominance, there can be only one victor. Because several views only causes conflict where one view is desired.

mt 12:26 And if Satan cast out Satan, he is divided against himself; how shall then his kingdom stand?

mk 3:26 And if Satan rise up against himself, and be divided, he cannot stand, but hath an end.

When it comes to a Godless view for dominance, the victor will be the ringmaster of that view. And he will kill anyone who gets in his way. To become ringmaster (God) on earth (the last three years of the tribulation). He will require the mark to be taken because he knows that this will show total rejection of God, and total commitment to him. And he also knows that the mark will seal the fate of every soul that takes it (no turning back).

 d) Islam shows the same hatred for anything to do with the Christian God, which includes the Jewish people. Which takes evolution theory back to it's roots of hatred through Hitler, and the Holocaust. Regardless of how evolutionists deny their past, I find it often ironic how the connection is made even today, and is still a driving force behind the theory.
 e) Etc....

(6) A world with no God is the only choice they leave themselves with. One world view and dominance requires such thoughts to take place, and paves the way for the ringmaster to appear. Deny it as they will, they are slaves to his agenda, and are to blind to even see it (reprobate).

Evolutionists:   rom 1:28 And even as they did not like to retain God in their knowledge, God gave them over to a reprobate mind, to do those things which are not convenient;
 Islam:  tit 1:16 They profess that they know God; but in works they deny him, being abominable, and disobedient, and unto every good work reprobate.

Reprobate is not calling someone a name. It is a name of a curse that falls upon people who continually reject God, and would rather believe a lie over truth. For only God can make someone a reprobate (not knowing right from wrong, truth from a lie).

 2thess 2:11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie:

The rest of what is said pretty much falls into the categories listed. I will leave the rest of the highlighted blank so it can be matched, and can been seen how this fits and works together.

A response to what this person said by another atheist-evolutionist:

 I think you'll soon be finding that the Evangelical Christians are more than willing to kill in the name of their God, they may not behead and resort to hijackings... But then again, those are desperate tactics of the of the disenfranchised. And the wing-nut Christians are VERY MUCH franchised in the US. DOn't think for a minute that they don't have a quick death planned for anyone who doesn't share their theocratic view that is just as nasty as anything the Islamsts radicals want to do.
Don't fool yourself, both are after the same goal in the end.

The first responder posts again:

 Not that I really want to be defending fundamentalist Christians, but most Christians, even fundies, have rejected 'conversion by coercion' for 'conversion by persuasion' ever since the Renaissance. Islam is still in the 14th century, whereas Christianity, largely by the prodding of secularism and the Enlightenment, has moved on.

I know some real wing-nuts. None of them has ever expressed the desire to kill anybody. But I know of some things that could change all that.

Even though wing-nuts are franchised in the U.S., unlike the Middle East where people are too afraid to speak out, here, Conservative, Moderate, and Liberal Christians can and DO criticize them at every turn, when they do real a**-hatty things. Remember, it was a Christian judge who overturned the Intelligent Design "putsch" in Dover's school system. Let us not forget that we still have Christian allies in the struggle for reason in government.

The growth of Islamism worldwide is what threatens to unravel our system of 'checks and balances' on Christian fundamentalism.

I'll say again - if wing-nut Christians do continue to gain real power here, it will be out of a response of fear (in politics, fear is all the neocons and 'moral majority' have left). But I don't think they'll have to abandon 'conversion by persuasion' - a fearful citizenry will gladly follow their religious leadership, vote them in, and radicalize themselves as a self-defense mechanism.

If that happens, then you're right, we're in serious trouble.

A bigger threat than Ray Comfort prattling on about bananas, IMO, is Christian fundamentalism continuing to grow in the halls of government, put there out of (the awakening) public fear of the threat of Islamism, and we Americans waking up to a worldwide Crusade. We're halfway there.

It may only take a couple more terrorist attacks on U.S. soil to make it happen. Let's not pretend that 9/11 was a one-time only operation.

They are about world dominance and control, and they are willing to join with the Islamics, change them to their views, and then come against us.

If you do not understand what I am speaking of. Or you want to know more. I would suggest you read this section of my site: Shame of evolution.  Make sure to click the next link at the bottom of each page. Each section of the website works like turning pages on a book.


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